Souls of Hip Hop

B-Boy Josh Ortiz

June 23, 2020 Josh Ortiz Season 1 Episode 5
Souls of Hip Hop
B-Boy Josh Ortiz
Chapters
1:48
First encounter with Hip Hop
3:53
Driven by trauma
11:56
Separation
13:54
Song "Break Da Chainz"
17:06
Kangen Water
20:00
Life as a father
25:43
Racism
27:52
Advice for upcoming artists
29:47
Entertainment Industry
39:18
Maintaining health
42:12
What's next?
47:29
Song "Oil Money"
50:50
Applying your own mentality
55:17
Project Momentum
57:25
What is Hip Hop to you?
Souls of Hip Hop
B-Boy Josh Ortiz
Jun 23, 2020 Season 1 Episode 5
Josh Ortiz

On this episode, we talk to Josh Ortiz also known as B-Boy Incredible Josh or Jnkredible, a professional dancer, acrobat, producer, recording artist, and teacher from the Bronx, NY. His movie and live performance credits include 'Battle of the Year', 'Step Up 3 & 4', the Ellen Show, Janet Jackson's World Tour, Cirque du Soleil, and many more. Josh is also a member of the Incredible Breakers and Skill Methodz Crew.
 
In the interview, we discuss his upbringing in the Bronx, entrepreneurial advice, the importance of health, and Hip Hop as an umbrella brand.
 
You can find Josh here: 
www.jnkredible.com 
www.instagram.com/sunz_i 
www.youtube.com/user/incrediblebboy 

Support the show (https://www.buymeacoffee.com/soulsofhiphop)

Show Notes Transcript Chapter Markers

On this episode, we talk to Josh Ortiz also known as B-Boy Incredible Josh or Jnkredible, a professional dancer, acrobat, producer, recording artist, and teacher from the Bronx, NY. His movie and live performance credits include 'Battle of the Year', 'Step Up 3 & 4', the Ellen Show, Janet Jackson's World Tour, Cirque du Soleil, and many more. Josh is also a member of the Incredible Breakers and Skill Methodz Crew.
 
In the interview, we discuss his upbringing in the Bronx, entrepreneurial advice, the importance of health, and Hip Hop as an umbrella brand.
 
You can find Josh here: 
www.jnkredible.com 
www.instagram.com/sunz_i 
www.youtube.com/user/incrediblebboy 

Support the show (https://www.buymeacoffee.com/soulsofhiphop)

Unknown Speaker :

Welcome to souls of hip hop, a podcast for hip hop heads that aims to bring inspiring people together to share their passion, wisdom, and unique stories. My name is candy, and my name is Dj Razor Cut And together we are Soulidarity connecting souls organically. On today's show, we have Joshua Ortiz aka incredible Josh. Josh is a professional B-Boy dancer, Acrobat, producer, artist and teacher from the Bronx, New York. His movie performance credits include Battle of the year, Step up three and four, the Ellen Show, Janet Jackson's World Tour, Cirque du Soleil and many more. Josh is also a member of the legendary incredible breakers and skill methods crew. Welcome to the show. My name is Joe the name that was given to me from my mother was Joshua J. Ortiz. J means Joe, which was my dad's name. His real name is Jose but he didn't like his name. So he changed it to Joe because I guess it sounds more American or something. My brother did the same exact thing. Yeah. Really. His name is Jose Roberto. Yeah. And then one day he had his friends come over from school. Yeah, they wanted to see Joe. Who knows who Joe is? Really? He changed it to Joe. So weird. Well, because he thought that everyone was saying his name during the Star Spangled Banner. Jose can you see ... Oh my god. Yeah, that's hilarious. That's funny. Wow. Anyway, let's get back ... Did he take a knee for that? Like I'm not putting up with this right now. When was your first encounter with hip hop culture? My first encounter was when I went outside to play when I was a kid. I was just born in that environment. So everybody was always talking like that addressing like that pretty much anyone was born, you know, What part of New York? The Bronx, Kingsbridge uptown. But also, your family was already deep into hip hop, like your uncle's you know, it's funny, if you ask them, they won't even like acknowledge hip hop in itself, because when they did it, it wasn't like anything with a name. It was almost like at a certain point in time, some really clever minds got together and they branded the whole trend of what was going on in New York and they call it hip hop. And that the trend began with maybe like one or two people and it's like, well, they did decide what the culture was if you want to call it a culture just what the movement and the energy was in New York at that time. So my uncle's you know, they have a very, like, I guess you call it like a pioneer type mentality. You know, I'm saying where they don't really follow the crowds or go with what other people are doing all the time. You know, I'm saying I was raised like that to not really like give too much importance to like names. And just to Feel the energy of what what's going on and kind of like, adapt. And what was going on. What was going on was same thing that's still going on, you know, say kids is wild and out playing some rowdy music and finding ways to entertain themselves. Kids are always really the people that set the trends and allow the adults to survive really, like allow the adults to have avenues and ways to essentially give back to the kids you know, so it's like a circle. You get into dancing and the culture at an early age, but you're also active in many elements of hip hop or what today we consider elements of Yeah, How was it for you growing up? Honestly, like when you're a kid, you're just like, getting into all kinds of stuff and just playing you know, just like fun, different fun things to do. But saw Yeah, I was like always doing it. Like kids. That's the first thing to do. You know, kids, they play for a living I'm sorry to interrupt, but you were doing it. Well, whatever you did, the thing that made that possible was the the trauma. Okay, so that was the I like became obsessed about something because I was being taught how to become insecure. And I was scared all the time. Like in the 90s. In New York, it was, it was to me like, everybody's like, yeah, the 80s was bad or whatever. But the 90s was really, really bad. Like, it was a lot darker. For some reason. I don't know, when I was doing it as a kid and getting into the dance and really getting into you know, what people call a culture. That's what drove me because I had all these insecurities and these fears and from what my dad was doing and what certain people in my family were doing, you know, drug wise and physical wise and all that, that I like, wanted to scout the best role model like the most admirable person, the most loving person the most sought after and admired person and that was my uncle Chino, at the time, because he was like a piece of light, light hair, light eyes, light skin, you know, happy smiling and when he would dance about are you smiling at you And he's like destroying you do like, and because he was so carefree and natural with everything how he did what he did, you know, I'm saying he just had this confidence within himself because in my theory, you know, he was the youngest out of seven. And from my mother all the way down like my mother probably had it the worst because my grandfather was like, old school Puerto Rican, you know, but that Puerto Rican that was like predominantly Spaniard colonial mentality European like perfection robotic, sterile You know, I'm saying like he just had them like in line through shitty means and ways of his methods. So gradually you know that that abuse will trickle down and then from my mom you had Uncle Sam which is the first boy which had the worst You know, I'm sorry, Jackie was the first boy which Yeah, you know what he probably had it the worst because we don't even know where he is. So yeah, all the way down to you know chinos last one he just was like, super, super ill him and my uncle Brian, you know, they were always like together, just going out there and going to clubs and just having fun and like battling people They were good look and so the you know, they got pretty girls and so I just always wanted to be that to me it was like, well, maybe if I do what they do, then I can escape this trash this dump and just like expand. So that's really what that's really how it started the fire in it anyway, you know, because I did it always as a younger kid and just being around it and it probably was inherited inside my bones because when I was like four or five like I was already I was doing like talent shows in kindergarten and kids were like booming because they're like, yo, that's mad wack that's old, like even kids five years old, six years old. They'd be like, wow, you rockin Pumas. Shit is old. Like that's how kids are when they're like six or seven in New York. Do they just like, already talking like that? So I was I wasn't popular, you know? I mean, I wasn't like, cool. I just felt like, like, I'm a dork dude on the low. I'm a geek, man. I like nerdy shit. That whole thing with hip hop wasn't that's why they were saying Oh, breaking died in New York at a certain point. If you talk to a lot of these old school heads or lay out Breaking Bad or whatever, because that's how that's true. Like a lot of kids will always like it wasn't putting Popular anymore was popular was POC and Biggie digital underground and and that should cause crazy. That's why I say in the 90s it was worse because that's when the Bloods came and they started organizing in New York you know what I'm saying? And if he was wearing red it was cutting your face for no reason you'd be on a train a woman were getting a face slashed the 90s so it's like yeah, the 80s was bad but then in the 90s they were just slashing your face for no reason just because you had a color and they brought that West Coast gang culture because gang culture was pretty big in New York but they had a little bit more sensitive shit that they was doing you know saying like they were like, if you come to my hood and you hurt anybody or you do drugs on my block it was it was a little bit more based off territory you know, the more instinctual primitive but like la was just awesome real in depth coded street light you know, I'm saying mad different color codes in Chicago to you know, Chicago has always been crazy with all these dudes robbing banks and shit, but like la was just weird. It's eerie, you know, you go to Compton, you go to watts. You know, you got to be respectful when you go over there, you know, I'm saying like, you got to learn the culture before you go there. Respect because if you don't know their culture, and you're just like, yeah, everything's good and everything you go there's still certain parts of the world you just can't go there. New York has changed. It's gotten a bit better. Some more gentrified, Brooklyn is gentrified the Bronx to try to do that, but it's not really working. The box is still the Bronx, like I went to my old neighborhood. They looked worse. When I was growing up there. I was like, dang, there's the tearing down the walls and trying to rebuild stuff with people not letting them rebuild it. So what they did was they put a building there now, in my old block that they put a lot of really sick people there, just in the middle of a regular block. We got kids running around and all you know they got crackheads in there and people like AIDS patients that you know out, outhouse living, you know, people diseases and stuff like that. And it's just because that's what that sounds like. That's how they do it, man. And they're like, Okay, well, it's not gonna happen now, but in about 10 years, 20 years, ain't nobody gonna want to live here because it's blocked and then they're just letting the block go to complete shit. You can see it if you go there's just like letting it go to shit like not taking care of it. I'm more so than anybody who has senses and just because People are poor doesn't mean they don't have sense. You know, I'm saying they're gonna be like, they're just lazy as motherfuckers you know, I mean my experience people that they're poor is not that they're poor is that they're lazy. You do have poor people in situations and poor situations but I don't even think those people are as lazy as some of the people that I was raised around I want to call themselves quote unquote poor but they're living with the freaking super huge television in their living room and all but you go to their hood they're in like South Bronx and they like jacking cars or I don't know, you know what I mean? But they're in the house they have like, nice things in my home when I was growing up it was really trashed It was literally like I mean, like holes in the walls and no, no door handles. I used to peek in sometimes on my babysitter's when they use the bathroom. That wasn't had but that's how it was dude is trashy. Like, at least the karma I was born into after a while like everything went to shit when I was a baby. Things were kind of nice and they took care of things and but the deeper my dad got into crack, the more everything just like you know, crack Everybody shut up in the 90s Yeah, I'm saying the 80s early 90s that had to do with with hip hop. There's a lot of people don't want to say you know, I'm saying a lot of people want to say that but that's the problem to me. That's why I don't identify with it because I feel like so many of those quote unquote pioneers I'm saying they to face they fake all that shit on the radio, or they talk about they care PC, they love having fun and all they don't give a fuck about none of that shit. That's a brand to them, you know what I'm saying? And they use that to sell they records and they rappers and they got chains and then all the drug dealers are sponsoring the hip hop events. And they put that shit out on the street. And it's supposed to be cool when it's supposed to people supposed to thrive off of that so that's why I'm happy that has gone is become what it's become. I can't judge nobody. That's not where I'm coming from. I'm not coming from a place of judgment. me just feeling how the fuck I feel about it, bro. Like they still do these people. And it's not anybody in particular. It's just another type of mind that exists out there in the ether. If you want to, like say that poverty has its anything substantial. You know, I'm saying It has to do with the lack of knowledge that you have about what the hell's going on. I mean, that's, that's as far as you can say someone's poor, some of the people that are born into that the physical poverty in these third world countries and everything like that. It's very unfortunate and it does exist. But we have to remember that everything has a past, and everything comes from something else. And there was not a time that we could ever remember that nothing didn't come from something else. We don't know any beginning. It doesn't matter who says they know, we can read it in books, we can believe in it if we choose to in these religions and do all this beautiful self catering things that make us feel comfortable and cozy at night in order for us to sleep. But the truth is that we don't fucking know. That's a very uncomfortable, scary thing to really think into and contemplate all the time. Just that ending of itself can cause people to lose their mind, you know what I mean? But we have to teach that to our kids early so that they can learn to live with that. You want to have them enjoy their lives as children as well. You got to try to find a way to balance that you make a good point about there was a movement happening. That was just life for everyone. And suddenly a inspired people to monopolize on it. Yeah, absolutely. But I also feel like there's parts of it, where it also inspired people to bring people together to, it's always a good thing the same as religion. To me, I don't knock anybody that believes in whatever they want to believe my discrepancy in those people only comes when they are closing other people out, which is what naturally tends to happen with certain individuals more. So I would say a lot of the founders in these types of movements with the younger generations, they're not concerned with that as much as the people that are still out there to really try to preach that, you know, they keep they're continuing to teach segregation and whether it's racism, whether it's through, it's better to be straight and gay, or you know, whatever, whatever everybody wants to judge all these other people about, to me, is such a waste of energy. It's just a waste of Energy is not it's not that these people are wrong or they're bad or that I'm judging them or whatever, I'm just, I can say what it is. I could say, Yeah, they're wasting their energy, I'm not gonna waste my energy. It's not to say that the brand of hip hop, the umbrella of hip hop is a negative thing, or it's a bad thing. It's not. It's just a limiting thing. And it does bring people together the same way. Racism brings people together, you know what I mean? So it's always about the quality and not necessarily the quantity of how these people are coming together and who is at the top sharing, sharing, right? What the truth about this thing is because they're always deeper truths, and you start off at the surface, which can appear as a lie or not, but there's some truth in certain lies to if you kind of look into it and understand that every time something beautiful happens, something really opposite of that is happening at the same time for whoever's there's so many different ways for you to find what resonates as true for yourself. You caught up in a mental slavery break the change you talk about that nine to five homie break the chain it's all inside yourself to change you can free your mind we all connected like gold links eternal shot you caught up in that mental slavery break the chains you stuck up off that nine to five homie break the chain it's all inside yourself to change you can free your mind we all connected like gold lady she's totally shocked I never realized I was living in the mental prison react and breakfast fleeing situations sex than women. I had my fair share of wallet not dirty streets punches zombies in the mouth to talk shit which I felt like deep inside there's something wrong with how I'm living like there was something more beneath the surface I was missing. Like I was born into this matrix where my people suffered a demon murder while my cracker daddy beat my mother. My school was full of gang bullies who sold the thing. Teachers lied and told me Columbus discovered bank racism and religious sex and exploiting women police authorities confiscated drugs from rapidly distributed back to minority while the study brainwashed the majority to me to get lost in promoting our safety as initial priority. Really big in prison or psychology you caught up in a mental slavery break the change you talk about that nine to five homie break the chain it's all inside yourself to change you can free your mind we all connected like gold links eternal shine you caught up in that mental slavery break the chains you stuck a boss that nine to five homie break the chain it's all inside yourself to change your mind we all connected like gold lady she's never really glorified the case the life My money's breaking that's my second night started reading books about awakening the consciousness itself to me was key to calm the hastening set examples for my family, show them how to love themselves and create a sanity. six figures marry to a British girl put my son in a crib now my matrix is a different world I'm living life to see what the world can be possible. When I turn the key to unlock my soul for you my mind and become the light of eternity, living like to see when I turn the keys to unlock my soul Yuan bond and become the light you caught up in the midst of slavery break the chain you talk about that nine to five homie break the chain it's all inside yourself to change your mind we all connected like gold links he totally shot you caught up in that mental slavery break the chains you stuck about that nine to five homie break the change inside yourself to change your mind we all connected like gold lady she's totally shot it up and ask you what is like your go to order as your favorite restaurant. Man I really missed this one restaurant I used to eat in California. It was called Hugo's. Everything was like organic, mostly vegan, that they do fresh juices. They're like just anything you want. But like the best quality like you know, I mean like hands down and it was very simple place to just like right on it. corners like a really good quality to it and you know the menu the prices for the food or whatever it was, it was substantial but it was worth it. I cooked myself as well I started cooking with the K eight with the Kangin machine first you'd like get all the pesticides out of it you like clean your food with the 11.5 if it's like red meat or poultry or whatever, you soak it in the 2.5 first so basically kills any bacteria like purifies the meat and it makes a bit softer, breaks it down. The 2.5 is nuts because it smells a bit like bleach, it's just water and you can smell the top the acidity in it, the 2.5 disinfects and kills and then you put it in the 11.5 and then the 11.5 just clean so it'll clean even the 2.5 off you know i mean to clean the whole thing up and then if you're gonna boil it or whatever you put in 9.5 and it's just me everything like the rice it just tastes so clean and it holds the flavor like way more how'd you get into all this cuz when I was living in Cali was good in some amazing restaurants like that so nice. And also the water of the office, the Kenyan office is right by the dance studio. So we go you know, go dance, go across the street, fill up a jug of water, and it's just like you could feel the difference in the waters and then also we go to the mountains and we would like hike the mountains and smoke a little herb just be hippies and should just chill. But that's how I got into the whole situation with the water because a few of my friends were like, Yo, dude, you gotta try this water out Jose full deck was the first one to get it and we you know, we live together he ended up moving in with me because I used to live with a girl Jules, she moved out and then he moved in with me and we were just there training all the time through martial arts break and like just all day every day and I was single then so just like you know, coming in and out coming and go in, try whatever foods out drinking whatever kind of things that you know, so we had the machine and we were just me and him. We would share it and it kept my body so clean dude, like so hydrated and so clean. The water cleanses yourself. It's like intracellular like Doctor savy know if you guys know doc save he talks about intracellular cleansing and electrified foods and water. That's electric water you can turn on a light bulb with that shit. Everybody has a weird unique experience with this machine. There's plenty of testimonies like one of them is with my wife right now like she had that thing you get from when you give birth or whatever it's like a pigmentation in the skin or whatever and that's it baby that's gonna go away and Cesar was telling her to like oh, yeah, that's that's gone don't worry about that. That's not gonna so she started drinking that dude. You see your face is clear now she doesn't have the weird brown spotless Yeah, like browns, like big brown spots right on their eye. And a lot of that stuff, believe it or not, that people don't understand is just from dehydration to is from your cells in your body not being able to do what it does, which is heal you because you're not giving it the proper oxygen. You cleanse first and whenever you're cleansing when you get sick, it's a good thing. It means it's working. Because if you keep all that all that imagine all that sickness that's coming out, it will stay inside of you. Like if he wasn't getting it out. So you got to get it out some way. It's gonna ask how would you say your prayers spective on life has changed as you become a father, who hasn't really, I've always been like that. Like, I think I had like some practice with my brother for the most part, but I always knew like I always took things pretty serious. But that's the cool thing about once you start to make a family is that once you make it a family and you have now you know, you have a significant other someone you know, cares about you because they with you, when you stink, they with you, when you're doing good financially with you when you're not, you know, all that. I don't that's another thing about hip hop that I just find, you know, I mean, like there's a stigma to it, you know, I'm saying if you hip hop and you you hip hop head and you heart and this, you know, and then you gotta you gotta uphold that image. So a lot of people create problems for themselves in their life because their quote, unquote, hip hop. So if you do not live in accordance with the culture or your homies outside, then you're just, you're not being real. So you can have something amazing. Have a beautiful family, you can have things going for yourself. And because you got to be hip hop, you creating problems, dude, you don't even know you create them. You're like complaining about some shit or you just like You know you insulted somebody because you know you act like you're still in high school because you don't like the way the guy did it has been so then you want to talk trash along, you're just creating like roadblocks and then that could pull you back and you can recreate what you you know what you came from, you know, I'm saying the hip hop and all that you can you know, you can you can stay there as I seem to happen to a lot of quote unquote pioneers in hip hop heads that they just, they're talking about entrepreneurial ism, they're talking about having integrity, they're talking about, like really being genuine, but they're not. And that's what you have to kind of decipher for yourself. Everybody vibes with everybody differently and it's fine, but there's certain people that you can vibe with that you know, like well, I got love for that person on a on a different level. You know what I'm saying like, aka vibe with that person any day of the week, I don't got to take them in doses I don't got it. You know what I'm saying I don't have to. For me, I've just gotten to the point with myself and and that's a choice on like, my shit, no state but I just get to a point where like, people are always the deciding factor in your success, the people you're around and who you're gonna place yourself around and how you're going to surround yourself with your own thoughts. You know, I'm saying like, oh, the company you keep whether it's in your own mind or whether it's from the people outside you, you've got to learn to keep better company do the the hip hop mentality is a little bit intoxicating, sometimes too, it's a positive thing. It's not a negative thing, ultimately, because these people are not like, mass murderers and criminals, you know, but there's always room for growth. You know, I always see myself that way. There's always room for me to grow, there's always room for me to see something different. I'm only speaking about my experiences, you know, I'm saying and how I've, I've seen and connected and related to certain people, and the mistakes I've made, you know, I'm saying and whenever I've made mistakes, how I deal with them versus how I've seen other people deal with them toward me. It's always a big day for me because I'm like, I'll go to the extent of apologizing. I don't care if I make a mistake, and I try to make it up and I try to be a real friend to somebody but these dudes don't really believe in apologizing as much anymore. And I must say to me, because for me, I think that people treat me really differently. Because of the respect that I give them and what I'm willing to cut off, you know, I'm saying and the ground I'm willing to stand on people know it, you're gonna need to deal with me just I'm not gonna deal with you at all. Like, I don't want to deal with that because I don't have patience for it anymore at all. And I think because like I said, when I was like nine to 10, and I dealt with stuff that was so bad, you know, from my dad to other things that I was just like, I don't have and by the time I hit like 20 which is what you asked me earlier about when I stopped dancing. I didn't have any more patience for any of it. So I told him what I said Yo, if you don't leave this I'm out of here bro. I'm getting the fuck out of here like fuck this shit like I'm just gonna end I left school in like ninth grade that I was done tired of it school trash fear walking around time teachers like you know what I'm saying? Just not really caring and being scared of the students themselves. You can blame them you know, I'm saying like, going to school because again stabbed and had just wild racist stuff going on and even in schools back since like back then you know, those are the same people that's still carrying out bullshit. You got people that were having into the fifth floor, the Dominicans, and then the whites is on the third and then the blacks is on the second and so it's like these kids were taught that shit and my uncles as to some extent, were taught that from my grandfather so some of my uncles are awesome on the low niggas some of them are racist like, and I don't like that shit when they talk like that I'm like, and it almost comes off like they do it in a joking manner. Like they just fuck it around. But you don't you don't play like that because it's somebody you doing that shit when nobody else is listening to you. But if you do that, and you and they hear you talking like that, you're gonna get checked, you know what I mean? So to me is cowardice cowardly like that like in the hood and with a lot of the people that they just want to stay on this like, on this low backpack and level of what hip hop is and all this and being hard and try to front and all this. A lot of them are cowards, man straight up. A lot of them are cowards, because they don't want to say what needs to be said. They don't want to call people out on their bullshit. It's not an end. It's just to just have a conversation with people you know, I'm saying and level with them and like, reflect on the shit you said or what you did or what You're still doing and learn from it dude, why wouldn't you want to do that? You know, saying like, why wouldn't you want to get smarter? He talks about you a business person, but you still in New York, and you jerk me when I was like 1819 years old. And I was already aware of that shit. Like, I gotta get money from my mom's I'm bringing money back home from my mom to like, I'm not, I'm not going to school anymore. I'm doing shows with you. And then y'all want to lie to me and tell me I'm not getting paid as money. And then somebody else tells me that I need to be rehearsing because I'm getting paid for this shit and you got caught out there. So I can't really judge people but at the same time, like people need to be more humble bro. It is not humble to me like you know I'm saying like they just talking like they still like and I think that's always been my thing in my mind. Like I could understand why people are like, if you want to call it racist towards hip hop or racist towards certain people, aside from the fact that just because they don't understand them is because they themselves are not taking the time out to understand from an open minded approach and I'm saying like they just quit together. Quick to and that's on both ends, that's happening with the blacks that's happening with the whites that's happening with hip hop heads that's happening with See, hip hop is seeing something that's black, for the most part in the in the States. You go to other countries and all that. And it's even there though, even the neat lay in England, you know, I mean, like, my wife's parents, they're like, Oh, yeah, hip hop, what is that? Like, but, you know, it's like, because the old fashioned mentality, you know, they came from a place where they saw how oppressed the blacks were, they, they, they were a part of that themselves, you know, I'm saying their ancestors with a reason that for a lot of that, so to them, when they see people like myself, and where we come from, that we're not supposed to be alive, right? We wasn't supposed to pass that message on to your kids. Like, you know, I'm saying like, not that that are now like, you're mad because your kid is, you know, a part of people that you try to oppress. So that's how that's why you've got to be gotta be careful. You know, I mean, because we don't know. We don't know what life is going to do and what price are our seeds are have to pay in the future. And that for me, like, if that if there was anything that ever changes being a dad, that's the one thing that didn't change, but it became more of a consciousness within me. If you compare people for different things, it's funny because you could be like, Yo, this person is the greatest because, you know, saying maybe lyrically like whatever or this person like rock the tables like the best of this person dance the best whatever. For me in my head, you always wanted to have a balance and be like the elicit, like, how I was living my life as a whole, not just like me doing some one thing good, you know, I'm saying and then may not understand this some other shit, you know, and just looking like a fool. Like, you know, I mean to myself, I don't call myself an artist anymore. I call myself an architect of life. I want to architect my life. I want to like engineer my shit. So that's what I've been doing since I was a kid. I was conscious of that place, you know, since I was like, five, what if there's other architects of life out there? or What advice would you give them going into entrepreneurship of that artistry? Or talent? How do they protect themselves? Well, I broke it down to three things. And as I was thinking about the other day, when you told me on to this podcast, I'm like, Alright, I want to, like, simplify it. Before I even go into those three things, there was the clarity of purpose. But to know, like, if it's even something you want to be like, really, if it's something you want to be, and that might that might come with experimentation, like you might have to kind of go into that world a little bit in order to do it and feel it out and know if you want to do it. And, and in that case, when you're in that, in that phase of it, you shouldn't really judge yourself of how you're doing it as much, you know, I'm saying you should just kind of go into an experiment. Have fun, definitely have fun. The first and foremost, most important thing, it should be fun, so that's why like, I feel like a lot of people's turn their hobbies into into their career, which is a really cool thing, which is kind of like what I did, ultimately, because I tried out the nine to five thing that's why I stopped dancing. You know, when I went to I left from the Bronx, by the time I was like, 1920 I wanted to live in Brockton, Massachusetts, and then I moved from Brockton, Massachusetts, then I moved to Jacksonville, Florida. That's when I kind of really stopped dancing and took a break from it just so that I can understand what it felt like what everybody else was telling me about, you know, in this quote unquote, matrix or real world to, you know, well qualified you as a as a respectable citizen, you know what I mean of your society. So I tried to live like that for like a year. And that was as long as it took, and I was it. I just love freedom too much. You know what I'm saying, I love to, like have my own, like my own time and my own decisions, you know, to, to fall back on whether they're good decisions or whether they're mistakes, whatever, I don't haven't worked, or felt like I've worked. And that's why I tell my wife to like, when you find something, make sure that you don't feel like you're working. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's one of the most important things. So whatever purpose whatever, whatever you feel like you really want to pursue does make sure it's coming from that place. So how did you learn to protect yourself as an entrepreneur in the entertainment industry, it comes from a great amount of fear. And anytime there's a great, great amount of fear see People hear the word fear and they're like, whatever evil, dark, whatever, like. But it's not fear like that it's a fear and knowing that there's always like, a cause and effect. And the fear itself is only an extension of this enormous capacity to love, you know what I'm saying? Because that's, that's really I think, what some of the people that were around me kind of embedded in me when I was a kid and probably that's where I think the will and in certain drives and things to kind of like really branch out and flower out in different areas, you know, I'm saying really began to take place was in the enormous amount of fear I had to like, not exist or be irrelevant or not pleased the people I loved or not, or to lose the people that I really loved and to you know, so I think like, and I think that speaks for like a lot of people in the society now that are just like Learning to embrace and experience and go through the things that they're they're going through to like learn how to understand that fear within themselves like to know it's ultimately not fear as much as it is a contracting, overwhelming tracting love you know what I mean? Because that's there's only one energy you know, you call it love you call it light, whatever. That's just not my opinion. That's just like, that's just what it is just energy. That's it, there's only one thing. So then you begin to communicate on a deeper level, past words. So when you listen to me, like when I listen to people, I'm not necessarily listen to their words, I'm listening to everything, like the body language, the whatever's going on, you know what I mean? I feel like that's an extension of what the elements do, you know, water and the sun like these things. They just they are attention. You know, it's not that they're paying attention. They are that so when you could look at it like that and you could say okay, energy itself, from its rawest form. doesn't necessarily have emotion to it, it just is. So then what now what is it that makes something bad, or make something good or make something evil or make something, whatever word you want to put on it? And what that is, in my experience, in my opinion, is us just human beings. So now Now we know it's the human being that has that filter, or that perception of those two separately different perspective. See, now we've split it because it went from being one thing, which is ultimately love energy, which is ultimately energy itself. Okay, awesome. What can we build, you know, let's go let's go this go practice. Let's go down. So let's go create something, let's go channel our mind into figuring out something that that we can live by. We live by what we want, and everybody does. So it's like if you make certain mental contracts in your mind, these little agreements, these little, you know, things that we have going on in mind. There. Like little contracts, they're all like little things that we say like, this is what I'm willing to agree to, and what I'm willing to settle in with myself. So then when you kind of got that already internal, and you're just like, not willing to either negotiate, you know, there's different people out there that they say in the in business, but they don't want to negotiate because a contract is a certain way, you know, saying it doesn't mean that that that's it, you got to sign it right then and there. You know, I'm saying like, first and foremost, before you, you sign any contract, and this is what I'm trying to get to this, my point about it all is to understand energy in and of itself, meaning it can be created, whichever way you want to create it. So if you can create two things out of energy, when you see a contract, which is one thing, you can still create something else from it. And so you go into a contract already having your own mental contract already having your own mental positioning and agreements with how you want to experience your life and what you place value on what your value is to yourself, you know, saying what you feel you're worth, then you already have a set price and you already have a quality that you're willing to deliver along with that. price that justifies the price instead of saying so it's like, it's not so much that their contract means anything it doesn't. What means more is your contract, because they're not they're not their contract is general, you know, they have to put something out there to begin the process, you know, so it's a general thing, that they're gonna say, Okay, well, let's test this person and see what they're willing to accept or agree, you know, greed to, and they give it to you, and you read it. And some people that don't, that don't extend themselves that don't allow themselves to have a little bit more confidence, a little bit more knowledge about other things other than the things they're limited to knowing or believing within themselves, it becomes a reflection of what it is they're willing to sign and how fast they're willing to sign up just because they're scared that they're, you know, they identify with that fear. They think the fear is real. So they go on and they sign it because they're like, Oh, I'm gonna lose that if I don't do it now, because it seems a bit enticing and they never got paid money for something that they enjoy before whatever, which if it's your first time and you're getting into it in that way, that's great and still, you know, experience it to get just a tiny bit or whatever it is. That's okay. You know, it's when you keep letting yourself get jerked you know? And you've already been through that lesson, you know that then you got to kind of go back in and start rewriting your own contracts in your own head and find out your true value. And then understand that you can create whatever perception you want from that energy. Ultimately, when you look deeper into it, like I said, it's not fear. It's, it's what it's, it's a part of just this, this energy of oneness that has everything encapsulated in it, you know, so it's like, even if you sign a contract, and you screw up, so a lot, man, you know, I mean, like, do the research after the fact you know what I'm saying talk to people, you know, find out what your friends are making, find out, you know, go look at other contracts and read other things and, you know, come back the next time, you know, a little bit more prepared and even if it's one sentence, you know, that you want to change, you should always put your hands in the contract always. You should never just say okay, and just sign something at all. This should always be something that you want to change because either either you want to make sure that you guys are on the same page with Because that's the thing with those words, you know, they leave them open for interpretation. And then when you saw, you know, you think that you're understanding it, but like I said, words are just words, right? So there's just sounds so you don't know what the hell the person is really meaning or what the agenda is behind that and then based and then whatever universe you're reflecting, if it's something that you're, you're living that's not quite in alignment with your ultimate goal in what you want, you will meet difficulty you will face that because you just created it in the way of perceiving it a certain way. Some people they sign contracts, and they're still perceiving it that they're getting jerked, right, they might not even be getting jerked. You know what I mean? at all, they might be really worth that. You know what I'm saying? But because they're either a little bit too arrogant, or like, you know, somebody else kind of gave them a scenario where they made some kind of money that then they feel like, you know, it's just kind of played On you a little bit in like, you got to figure out right then and there when you sign a contract, if when you sign that contract, it's going to be a fulfilling action. Like, it's going to make you feel like, you know what, this is dope, like, you know, I mean, and I'm happy with this, even if I find out somebody else is making like, five times more than I am, you know, and you got to set yourself up for success. You got to set yourself your own mind up to expect things that you might not expect, so that when they do happen if they happen, you're like, really well prepared for it. And, and, and it doesn't come as a shock. You know, what I mean? and educating yourself at reading mad, different things and talking to mad different people. You know, I'm saying that's a big part of it. I mean, and just, you know, experience, you know, you can't really you can't fly before you run, you know, I'm saying So, is there a book that was most influential that you read? most impactful? There's literature? Yeah, there's literature everywhere. And there's not necessarily one particular book as much as there are certain people for me, the books have always been the people Like, you know, I mean because I carry some stuff and unless I really really go into it a few times and remember it and memorize it, I'm not gonna really have an effect but naturally like people will have a greater effect on one another so I would say learn more for people than than books and who is that for you has been mad different people throughout different times in my life and I and I choose the people you know, I'm saying and sometimes they choose me but for the most part I kind of think about what it is or you know how it is I want to be living and what I see in the future even if it's like an outrageous dream, you know, saying or like picture in my head You know, I don't really judge it too much like yeah, there's a part in your mind like especially if you're brought up a certain way that if you see yourself living in like a nice three story mansion or something, you know, you're gonna probably be like, Man, that's so like far out over my head or I think I've been fortunate because I feel like I like experienced so many things that I would have thought that was really far out there. But like added up in those situations, so I'm just like, dude, there's really nothing at all that's that far out. You know what I mean? Like, it's just, you know that that dream washes over you, and then you're in it, you know, I'm saying and you just live in through it, you're just like, well, what the heck's going on or whatever, but at least that's how it's been for me, you know, I mean, it's weird, bro. And then the most important thing that was like, number one, for me was health, just trying to like fine balance in my health. And that's like, when I say health, I don't mean for some people that I think they're turned off by the word health because they think it's like a sterile, like, arduous process of working out and training. And this is like, you know, I mean, it's not really that do like, it's just a balance of health. You know what I mean? Like, knowing when to enjoy, some chicken wings have a little drink, you got to understand the limitations of your body because we are mortal, but also imaginatively, you got to understand that even those limitations have a potential to be unlimited. So you can kind of like push yourself a little bit more, a little More than a little bit more never ends. So, by the time you look back and you find yourself, Well, what the heck? I thought that, you know, all these other dudes are telling me Yo, by the time you're like 32 years old dude, you're going to see bro you're going to be like, dude, I'm like 38 I feel fine bro because I always try to maintain the balance of my health and not super abuse my body but not beyond some light circus aleisha even though it wasn't circus labor, like, but Yo, those guys don't stop, you know, I'm saying they don't stop and then by the time they're like, 45 they can't play with their kid be and maybe they can but not without hurting. So I'm like, yo, like I'm gonna be running around when I'm like 90 something you know, I'm saying I'm still gonna have my knees and my legs know why because I've been very since I was a child I was always very open and receptive to people who are like some of the illest at what they did you know, saying like, to me that fascinated me like when you watch Bruce Lee talk about his training methods and his health and his philosophies and whatever, even though there was a very dark aspect to him and how he lived his life but that's a separate thing and all the true fans and true followers and people really know because when you really study someone and you let them mentor you, you're gonna you'll be able to know everything about them you know, I'm saying that's what's going to really teach you on a human level you know, like, okay, these people were human they were like, almost like superhuman, but they were human. So you're gonna have like I said, you're gonna have certain limitations and things you got to stop and acknowledge and hope to at the time but it doesn't mean you got to stay there forever. You hold to them you yield to overcome right then when you can push more past it then you keep going past that too. But the balance a health thing, I do it like waves, you know what I mean? Like, I like give myself a few months to sharpen up my tools. And I'm not saying I'm doing it correctly or not. I don't know. I don't know if I you know, I'm saying only time is gonna tell it works for you. If it's gonna ultimately work like to me I know ultimately work if I'm 100. And I'm like, yo, like, you know what I mean? I did it like okay, because that to me is the goal should be the goal. longevity. I'm saying like you want to enjoy your children, your children, children. So for me mental health and physical health, and like we were saying earlier before, you know, saying that that should just be considered as overall, being health, you know, you want to be healthy. What's next for you? The second thing that I was going to talk about was getting your yourself on a particular track for the future. For me, my goal is I don't want to have to always worry about money or I'm coming to a place where like, I'll be able to just live and allow whatever is meant to be whatever life is going to bring me bring it on. The plan and my goal is to is to ultimately allow that to revolve around other things, you know, I'm saying not money, like I feel like for most people, like their lives have to revolve around money because it's kind of the mentalities they're born into. So for me, I had to get away from people that thought they knew me and surround myself with strangers. That's why they've done a cruise ship for like three years. For one. It's a cool experience and it's also something really dope if you want to learn Life without ever having to worry about money, just so that you could get into the habit in the mindset of not ever having to worry or think about money at all, you know, I'm saying, work on a cruise ship, because you're not gonna have to pay no bills, you're not gonna and that's the mentality I wanted to learn, I wanted to understand because I feel like once I could subconsciously understand that mentality, whatever resonates, whatever bubbles up, you know, I'm saying on the surface conscious, the subconscious is the art of where that stuff is coming from. So once I could really program myself with knowing what it felt like to not have to worry about money at all, and to just be happy and but while still achieving great amounts of money. To me, that was like the perfect exercise I'm saying, because that's what I think most people want to be. But also, it not being such a heavy thought on their mind, like a worry or you know what I mean? You want to disassociate and just detach from the worry of money first, and whatever means you can do that or however you need to do that. Do it because it's training for your mind to disassociate all your ideas of what money means to you, and to be able to have the space to recreate What it should mean, really is what needs to happen in order for people to truly find success in more areas than just money. And a lot of people start backwards because a lot of people start chasing the money and think that it's the outward pursuit, and how they need to do it. And some of them succeed, and they make a lot of money and all that, but you know, they're still not really fulfilled, you know what I mean? Because it's still what they're revolving around. They never take that out of the equation. So I took money out the equation, I took people that thought they knew me out the equation, I separated myself from society, reality, hip hop, whatever, and I just lived in the ocean. But ultimately, yeah, you want to have certain streams of income. And you want to start them off small. You want to invest little things. Like you could pick seven different things, man, and that's the cool thing about i like i like about it because you don't have to always pick just one thing. Like don't do just one thing. Like, Yo, what what what's all the things you'd love to do? You know, I mean, like, what do you live in real life, like how many different things you'd like to do? What are they? Do you want to keep some of them as as your hobby? Like you were saying earlier, you know me, which is dope, because then you got clear with yourself. I mean, you're like, Oh, I just want to do this as a hobby. That's cool too. But it's just the mindset of how we go into these things. You know, I mean, if we go into them thinking, like, it's not a hobby anymore, like this is this is all this. And then you're like dealing with, you know, you market yourself to certain people that they're going to make you feel like it's a job now. Just don't market to those people anymore. market to people who are going to resonate with what you want to align yourself with, as far as your careers or your hobbies or what because you could get paid from your hobby, and it could be awesome. It is a little bit more difficult to live that way. So I understand, you know, saying that, I think that's also a part of the success and things I feel like I'm grateful about because I never played myself. Even when I danced for Janet. She was able to connect with me. You know, I'm saying in a way that like not even people that have the liberty to reach out and touch me choose to connect with me, you know what I'm saying? At the time, you know, she was a stranger and she's a businesswoman. She didn't have to do that, you know, I mean she just let me do whatever I wanted on stage. You know, I mean just do what you do Josh do what you do best like, like and it was like releasing a friggin Pitbull You know, I'm saying it's like I saw she saw I did that and and that's why that's what I mean. You know, I'm saying like, there's always someone out there that's willing to, to work with you, like truly work with you, you know, I'm saying not work for you or you work for them but like work with you and and that balance is awesome because you can do your hobby man and it can be a stream and you can make money from it and you're gonna do it anyway. You know what I'm saying? Like you I'm breaking like, all the time, like what the heck do like I'm doing that every day. Let me let me go. Let me go do this so that I could do the other things that I really want to do and that I love just as much like fun my own music, you know, I'm saying like I I basically did what drug dealers needed to do in the 90s. But I saw what they were doing and I I'm gonna do it I'm gonna do it different I'm gonna do it my way instead of getting you know saying having to hit the streets to get bread and then invest in music and start all these record labels, I'm gonna just do it through dancing so I'm gonna go and perform and do my shows or whatever and then I'm gonna build little by little and then I'm gonna invest in music and equipment and do all that so that's how I did it. It's still like a herd mentality to take the money in a flip it it takes you a little bit longer, but you're not you're not killing nobody's dad or brother or daughter song. You're saying you're not doing that. for a living. We get in cash cash on the definition of a King Robert testagrossa burn and lead adversaries buried on the scene bodies turning up by equalizing murder with machines fast track for my thugs in the club with my lady bitches pop a bottle gassy niggas get the pump with the slug Smith and Wesson loaded with snail shells. My ex on the gram pitch galloping on that racetracks with the Kwik Trip like 711 cake packs lady smashed out that BP got a guest out my housekeeper flexing that blah blah blah Take that place that stole my mommy just place it in your face for the Saudi money for suppression music fan to get your money when you put the gas or your money where you were stupid. Money. Money, money, money. Money comes back to the top just to navigate Money, cash, money, cash have a position in the community where people look up to you your actions will be imitated. Yeah, yeah, definitely always gonna be imitated. And if you and if you do that with your son or your own and naturally as carry out to the rest of the world I'm saying so it's like killing two birds with one stone. I mean, and what is your third point? But the last one that I was talking about as far as being an entrepreneur, like basically, sprouting out like a lotus, I'm saying coming from the mud from third and shit. And then just really like taking their own mentality to a place that people who had a head start. Still haven't gotten to yet. Yeah, maybe they got some, you know, some plaques and certificates and things or whatever, that's great. Those are accomplishments too, for sure. Those are a little bit more structure and they're always laid out for you. But it's like, what have you created on your own that you took you broke barriers within yourself to create, you know, you take more pride in those things as, as a human being, you know, I'm saying as I do, you know, like, so we take pride in like, Okay, well, we really, we solved that problem. We evolved and we grew from that thing on our own. It wasn't something that people mapped out or told us we had to do our plan for us or whatever. Like that's a big part of what it means to really choose to pursue that aspect of life art entrepreneurial ism, know your relationship with money because when you get into when you get into talking about being an entrepreneur or being a businessman, that has more to do with the art of relationship than as to anything else, like it has to do with how well related. Are you with certain people in your life? What are those people relating to you? And how well do you relate to money? because money is the factor and the main tool of what it what it means to be an entrepreneur, which is essentially a person who is going to go out and build awesome systems and, and or structures, material wise or other for the society, you know, they're like, they're choosing to play the game of the society, you know what I mean, which is a very awesome and admirable thing to pursue and to be, as opposed to just, you know, going off and being a monk and living on a mountain by yourself and sending out you know, I'm saying, which I contemplate and doing, but it's like, I want to play the game. And you know, I'm saying, I want to be here with everybody because I had a certain experience that really made me disassociate my ego from a lot of things. I thought it was real and put me in a place where I was like, I don't really need anything, like everything's fine, because this just is just gonna be what it is. And it's What I'm taking in and creating, turning these things into as far as the dream and it caught me up, you know, I'm saying to the times, it made me see things different. And then I was able to choose it. I think these different dynamics and different experiences definitely, like allowed me to have a little bit more of an acceptance, you know, I'm saying with stuff when it doesn't quite turn out how I want it to be. And I think that's a big part of what's going to make people successful as well. You know, I'm saying, as entrepreneurs, as mothers, as Father's business, people, whatever, like, just, if you can understand that you're not gonna be able to control everything, you know, I'm saying you got to accept certain things just for how they are. You know, I mean, even if you don't have the answer to them, you don't say you could create the answer to it. Of course, I'm saying people do that shit all the time. politicians do that all the time. preachers do all the time to create the answers all day you want to get, but you don't have control over any of it. Dude, you don't really know the answer. You just don't and that's okay. I like to hit the core truth of some shit. No, I'm saying the real value of the real underlying stuff. From that context, you know, we create the answers. Okay? What kind of answer Do you want to create for yourself? what is success to you? And that's the beauty about life, you have the freedom and the liberty to answer that however you want. And nobody could tell you that that's wrong. You know, you just have to respect other people's answers, when they're when they're answering it for themselves, for you to not say that they're wrong, or judge them because of their skin color, or because of whatever it is they're believing. Because you're defeating the whole purpose of what it really means to be an entrepreneur and to really want to utilize the tool of money to build better for other people. Because you're building better and you're doing all these companies and you're doing this but then your toxic behavior is just poisoning and polluting the world around you do like so. What's that? What's the point? What's the point like? being inspired is one of the most important things of being an entrepreneur because if you're not inspired by what it is that you want to do, or what it is that you're, you're pursuing dude, and just don't do it. I'm saying like that. I'll do it. Anything else you want to cover before Anything else we left out? Probably talked a whole lot enough for you guys to everybody out there. Like there's so many people out there that they're doing all kinds of amazing things, you know what I mean? Really, to seeing what you're gonna do with album, project momentum. Yeah, we're doing something we're doing somewhat of a double project. He's doing some things for his, for his network in his business. And I'm also building my own documentary, which he's in the production of, you know, editing something that is a little bit more in depth from where he's going to take his which is cool, because there'll be a sort of introduction, and then it will branch out into my own thing. We've been traveling and filming this thing for like, almost three years now. So and then between that time you know, I had a fire and lead those house I was a part of when was living there. You guys just interviewed him but yeah, we almost died in that thing. So I was there with my wife and the whole his whole house caught on fire and managed to, you know, save home Like equipment and got everything out there and then we were pretty much homeless for a few weeks and then abstrakt allowed us to stay with him as a person you know he's a beautiful brother we always connected for for many many years so it's been a beautiful journey man I'm grateful is not not gonna I can really I can't complain about because I asked for everything I got so I'm grateful for you guys for coming through and giving me that chance and also people if people are interested about about enagic Yeah, you know, I mean that company is incredible. They're 45 years strong Japanese company out of Osaka you know, Japanese technology is out of control. And these are medical devices they're not just and how can they want to feel about this like you specifically they could reach me directly or they could hit me up on Instagram. Okay son Zai sons with a Z su n z underscore letter I and or they can call me directly for 079075050 or they can email me incredible B boy meet calm. if they have any questions. I prefer to educate Allow them to try it before you know I'm trying to sell anybody anything. Another thing is that you guys have like a dad, B boy practice for dads. That's hilarious. We will. We will Yeah, we do every now and again, like the guys will come over we train here. For sure. So let's wrap it up with our last question, which is what does hip hop mean to you? I mean, it was like hip hop was to me the brand hip hop as a as an umbrella brand. There's like many different brands in the world on many different levels. You know what I mean? hip hop is an umbrella brand, like you have religions are umbrella brands. Because you can create sub brands, you know, and those sub brands are then packaged, whether it's a book whether it's, it's a brand that people make, but it's always your demographic. That's the most important before you go into any fully like getting your mind fixed on a brand. You know what I mean? And umbrellas are Cool because they allow many different people to, to utilize what's already been founded in that umbrella brand to make money from it. So it's pretty cool. So that's what hip hop is. It's just a brand. So to me, I don't like to go on to that specific brand titling anymore, or that particular umbrella brand, because to me, it's limited. And you can't reach the range of people that you'd be able to otherwise reach, say, if you were doing a world and road brand, which is the world which to me is huge. It's you can reach anybody at that point, if somebody hears all this as a hip hop podcast, but they're into country music, and say like, they're racist or whatever, because that does exist, you know, we have to respect those people's wishes to even though they're racist, and try to cater to them and try to get them to listen because it's bigger than hip hop. It's bigger than what a few guys who had this huge ego back in the 70s wanted to call this, this movement. And then if you're not calling it the movement that they call it, you're not kidding. keepin it real and you're not you don't know nothing about this. Like, what is this mean? Like what is? What is this is only for you? It's not. And that's why to me I go beyond that I always try to look past what limits me as a person. Thank you so much to our guest Incredible Josh for taking the time and being so open while sharing your perspective with us. Some of the gems we took away from this interview were: sometimes our circumstances are not one, we might find ourselves buried in conflict, hardship or internal suffering. These conditions do not make us any less, everyone serves an important purpose whether they know it or not. You have the ability to be the architect of not only your career, but also your life. Having your own mental contract with yourself will give you the confidence to negotiate future opportunities. The music was beatboxed by Denis the Menace and produced by Zede. Big shout outs to the homies in Switzerland. Also a big shout out to Soul culture, follow them @soulculture on Instagram and get your clothing for the soul. We would love to get your feedback, questions or any suggestions you might have. You can reach out to us on Instagram, Twitter or Facebook @soulidarityLLC, or via email soulidarityllc@gmail.com If you liked today's show, please tell a friend about our podcast. Or as Phife Dawg would say: Tell your mother, tell your father, send a telegram in our next episode, we chat with power couple Keyla Escribano and Ariel Flashback St Hilaire. These two are jack of all trades. Thank you for listening to our podcast. No seriously though. Thank you! I am Candy and I am DJ Razor Cut and this is Souls of Hip Hop.

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Driven by trauma
Separation
Song "Break Da Chainz"
Kangen Water
Life as a father
Racism
Advice for upcoming artists
Entertainment Industry
Maintaining health
What's next?
Song "Oil Money"
Applying your own mentality
Project Momentum
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