Souls of Hip Hop

Cindy "Sinergy" Foley - Part 2

May 18, 2021 Soulidarity LLC Season 1 Episode 25
Souls of Hip Hop
Cindy "Sinergy" Foley - Part 2
Show Notes Transcript

In this episode we talk to Cindy Foley aka B-Girl Singery. She is the President, Co-Founder and Executive Director of Child of this Culture Foundation. In addition, Cindy is a USAF Veteran, mother of 3 children and has a Hip Hop cultural background in community-arts engagement with an emphasis on pedagogy development. She holds a Masters in Human Relations and certificates in Social Justice and Diversity. Also Cindy is the identical twin of Candy.

In part 2, we talk about founding the non-profit foundation "Child of This Culture", building a team, working together as twins, applying to the US Olympic & Paralympic Committee, maintaining patience and self-disciplin, and much more.

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Welcome to souls of hip hop, the podcast for hip hop heads that aims to bring inspiring people together to share their wisdom, passion and unique stories. My name is candy, I'm DJ Razor Cut. And together we are Soulidarity, connecting souls organically. What's up, fam? Thanks for tuning in. Let's talk about child of this culture. Yeah, about founding COTC. And let's highlight some of the milestones. How did that come about? Well, you called me with the T shirt. And the timing was right, honestly, I just got out of the military, and was trying to figure out what you know what to do next with my little babies. And you call me with this T shirt called child of this culture. And is a dope shirt. But I think again, I don't know why. Or how I just I like, you know, my reaction to things. Was, wait a minute, can we do more? And so I think that's just always a question. I'm asking, Can we do more? If I can, can I do more. And so that's kind of where it started. I think it was doing these workshops in Miami Beach. And they were breaking workshops for kids. And I was getting all ages of kids and like the smallest kids in diapers, like maybe not even two years old, yet, all the way up to maybe 11, 12 years old kids, those group of them sometimes, you know, five of them sometimes like more, more than 10. And every week more kids were coming. And suddenly I was like, Oh, these are my little baby babies. I call them because there was you know, little babies, and I was kind of gearing the class to the earliest age possible, whatever was there. So if there was a three year old, and a three year old could do any of these moves, and everyone can do it, as long as you know, this cater to the youngest one. And I wanted to make a T shirt that said, I'm a child of this culture based on a poem I wrote of the same name, about culture being young, and why was it within hip hop at the time? And I just call it was like, I want to print the shirts out, I have a logo. And you're just like, that's all you want to do. I mean, we could do that. But is that it? That's all you want to do. And I was like, literally the scope of my idea. I was like, yeah, that's, that's all I want to do is a T shirt. You're just like, but you're doing like, this is really you're doing community work, you know, you do, you'd like basically sat in for an hour telling me about how this can be something more. I mean, it was just interesting. How rarely close after I took Mary to her first ballet class, Mary was too. And who doesn't take their little girl to ballet class when they're too I don't know, they? I guess I did. And then I was like, saw the hip hop sign. And I was like, What is all this in this dance studio with the hip hop. And I called you from there. And I was like, it all kind of came together. Because Kenny tells me things and she's like, I told you that like two weeks ago, and I don't process it or reflect about it until it's like smack in my face. And it all comes together. And so I'm like, Can we teach breaking the two years because I'm doing it already? I told you. And I said, boom, yes, we need to do this. Because I don't like what I'm seeing in the studio. Like I don't, this is not hip hop. This is not what I know of hip hop. This is not what I know of it, can we do better. And then the other thing too, honestly, was there was no route for the breakers in my opinion. So here I had been in the military for for these many years. And that was my career. But I had still been ingrained in those communities for breaking as a B girl. I was always like, going to practice wherever I was in my community, whatever they were up to, I was connected. And those communities were disconnected from whatever the big scene Oh, however you want to call it was because Florida was so in, like such a rich breaking scene in Florida. The only route that I saw at the time was entertainment. And unfortunately, that wasn't the route that I wanted to have, because that wasn't appealing to me, just looked really hard and tough. And I just felt like a lot of people are doing so of course, you're like, you know, it wasn't, in my opinion didn't seem as stable, you know, for the goals that I had for my own financial goals. So I was like, there has to be a different way. If we Teach, maybe teaching can be a different route because there's so many teaching avenues that have more sustainability and maybe that'll help people to have more sustain, you know, a way to share what they care about with the culture. So then yeah, we started right away. I was not a dance teacher nor did I like children at the time. Even though I had a couple of children I teaching children was not you know, something candy was always great with kids, like she has experience working with early childhood. No, not me. I was like, oh, man, I'm going to try this thing and see, and in my mind again, thinking, Okay, now try this thing as you're like, I'm gonna fly you out here, you're gonna show me how you teach. And I was like, What? Yeah, you're gonna come and spend like two weeks here, and you're gonna teach me everything, you know, you didn't show me your program. And I was like, okay, you want me to write it down, like I'm doing is just like, yep, write it down. And we're gonna, you're gonna, you're gonna teach me how to teach. And I was like, Okay, again, all I want to do is make a T shirt. And you're like, we're gonna make the T shirt. Just show me how to do this. Okay, and I still, mind you, this is 2011, towards the middle of 2012. Cindy is like, now writing everything down into a manuscript of how we're going to teach it. And we, you know, I already called the B baby. And Cindy is like, I'm going to teach this in, like, a few months. So, you know, we have this opportunity in this military base to teach it. And if you teach me, then we're going to use this, and we're gonna teach others how to teach. Yeah, absolutely not knowing at all what I was doing, I was just had an idea with the encouragement of knowing that my sister is amazing of what she does, and has the full talent of like, you know, nastiness as a bee girl. So I knew that whatever she was doing was gonna be amazing. And so being able to go, Okay, let's test this out, let me learn. But there was a couple other things, too, says the right people remember, the lady from the dance studio totally blew us off. And then the director of the recreational center, loved the idea. And I was very, I didn't say that I knew how to do everything I just said that I had this experience breaking, and I wanted to share it, and it'll be the first time his mentorship is really the basis of the programming. And because he had been there, I was very open. And he was very open and excited to help us create the programming. And then yeah, I documented the whole thing, because that's just kind of how I work be, I have to see everything visually, so that we could figure out if it actually is something we could do. But also, because I really believe in the idea that breaking is ballet is the foundation of all dance, and nothing against ballet, it was just my experience didn't come from that. And if we can change how studios understood that philosophy, I think that would be an advantage and something important for them to know. And so I think that I had to test it and prove it first. You know, and of course, I have the best person, they partner up with it. So and then after that, what we started to do is listen to the community and fill the gaps of what they needed. And that has been kind of the way that we rolled with childhood culture ever since we're flexible, we share, we connect, and then how can we really contribute in the people in those communities, each community is different. And each community, our needs are different. And the people who are willing to support those communities. They're different. So how can we be flexible and open to go here, the resources we've used and just like, you know, any element of the culture, you have a foundation, and then you do it, and you flip it and we get to share? Honestly, that's my favorite part in those successes. Yeah, but I think early on, because of the background, management background, and all this incredible background, as a leader, you set up our organization to be you know, straight up legit, you know, we had policies in place and things that you had, and even though some of us were not ready at the time, you still had them ready. You know, like, I remember when I was like we're gonna have a board meeting, and I was it was the first time I've ever been on a board. And I didn't know what that meant. And, you know, you're just very patient with all of us at the time. But here we are, you know, almost 10 years later. And those things are still in place. And we've still been able to maintain this positive organization is, you know, small but doing impactful work, and I keep learning. It's just super cool. You know, we can do a laundry list of things that we've done. I just as you're talking as we're thinking about that we started it with a few kids, you know, maybe a handful of kids in 2011 and then All the workshops we done, you know, think over 100 workshops now, in all these different art forms and specifically breaking, and then our literacy program, because we love to read. So everything that is the things that we love about the culture, we've incorporated that into our programming, and it's just a lot of fun to create this program, passport to hip hop and, or, you know, our art, our program right now, that's been going on in Florida for the last, what, six years now that we've been getting grant a grant for that one. And then I think it's just I didn't know any other way to work, I don't know any other way to work. Even though we weren't like, it was, you know, for board members and volunteers. I still acting like we're 12 board members and 600 people, you know, because I knew that the foundation of what we're doing now, what I learned in those early years was you're working with artists. And those experiences are different. And those work relationships are different. So you have to be flexible, and understanding where people are at that stage. And so I learned a lot by going, it's okay, because I know, I have it all. In my mind, I see it, I see the vision, I know where the mission is. And the mission hasn't changed some of those structural things as organization, you know, starting things from scratch, you know, and that's one of the reasons I think, my husband and I, when we were deciding, you know, for our family, what direction we were going to go in, this was a great time I was in my career in the military was at a high. But when we evaluate each other's strengths and weaknesses, I'm a self starter, I can start something from scratch, I have no problem whatsoever, being flexible, dealing with the with the setbacks, and pitfalls and challenges and just, you know, redoing and so it was an easy choice in our family, for me to go, this is a good time to separate from my career that I loved in the military. But now I get to go to this new part, for two reasons. One, our family support system needed to be strong, and I knew I could do I could feel that, really well make sure my family was intact. And then I was really excited to figure out that where I was going to build, you know, next, you know, because I knew in my mind, something was gonna, you know, I was excited to go what what would be next, you know, other than the caregiving and the nurturing, what else is is going to be there. But sometimes I think we feel like we all we have to have it all perfect and exact in order all the whole time. I'm happy that I didn't go that route, because we were learning and because of the type of project a lot of people are trying to, you know, are figuring out what their passion projects are. This is a passion project. This is a nonprofit is this just like a one time event, you know, evaluating what those what it is that you're trying to do when it comes to philanthropy, you know, at the time, because the nonprofit is a business, it's a REIT, you got to figure out how to make it stable. Just because it says nonprofit doesn't mean you don't pay people doesn't mean that you give everything for free. It doesn't mean it means that you have a purpose. That's more than just, you know, getting paid for everything. But you still have services, you still got bills, you still have a business. I think that's one of the first things we learned that first year cuz I was like, first of all, I didn't have any money. But we invested we made seeing Cindy invested in I was just like acting like Oprah giving people stuff like you get a shirt and you get a shirt and you get a sticker who has a sticker, you want a book and you want to share, okay, here you go. You're just like, okay, we're not Oprah, like we have a business. We just because you know, and you literally gave me that what you just shared a design, remember that very clearly that this is a business, we have to treat it as such. And the only difference is that the profit goes right back into the mission, it doesn't go back into our pockets. And so it was something that I learned in that we didn't have to go out and give people physical things that what we were actually giving people that was lasting them a long time was our encouragement, our support opportunities for personal development, as as our programming started to, I think grow as we grew as well. But I'm just really excited about what we've created and how our team has really stuck together throughout this time and that we've never actually been ever in the same country or Yes, you and I've never been in the last 10 years. We haven't even been in the same country. Yeah, so cha culture has been virtual. So we've been virtual even before the pandemic, you know, like so this is something that we've know that productivity and the way that we work as a business. works out in this virtual way, it's actually even been great because we've been able to connect and have relationships all throughout the world, towards our mission. So yeah, but I think to says you have a good eye for technology, you have a great innovative, like creative way of seeing things. And again, that helps us be strong, like our programming, I mean, Bluetooth, headless headsets, to do our hip hop workshops. Because we can do a workshop in any environment, and just making that connection and going, wait, how can we use this integrating conservation into our workshops, hip hop and conservation by inviting people to come and talk about, you know, water conservation and solar power, you know, and so because we don't close ourselves off to those kinds of innovative thinking, and I feel like that's, we don't want to lose that as hip hop, cultural practitioners, the creative critical thinking that we have the critical thinking is important, because we're not putting ourselves in a box. When I hear that now, I'm like, this doesn't sound like hip hop to me. Because hip hop is all about innovation. It's all about being outside the box. It's all about critical thinking. And so you're pretty much a queen of that, sis. And that's why for me, it's like, going Oh, wait, what if we do this? And it's like, yeah, be more innovative? Well, how about if we do this, and this is the part where we both can, when you have open communication, and you have really good area for teams to come out and communicate about their ideas, where there's openness about, but wait, that doesn't sound right. That's where you got real, real gems. That's where you got real work happening. Because when you have places where people aren't open, and they can't say, wait a minute, I see a red flag here. You don't want that in a team. You know, and I think that, you know, we're sisters, so that can come out like loud and yelling and stuff. Most of the time, most time razor thinks they were arguing, and I was just we are we're probably arguing, but we're discussing, and we are also very passionate. But at the end of the day, we're sisters. So we're like, Alright, talk to you in an hour. Yeah, let's get it out on our, you know, like this, oh, like you see a fight going on. And then all of a sudden, everybody gets in the same car, you're like, What? But what's productive about it? Obviously, you know, when it gets unproductive, that's not good. But I'm saying Yeah, as we grow, and mature, things have gotten a little better and communicating. But I think as a team, I think it does give us a superpower of being twins and understanding each other and working and being a teammates for our whole life. Yeah. And then including others in that same way and gaining that trust from our other team members within our organization, you got to know each other. At some level, you got to know each other in some level. So again, you can identify the strengths. And then if the person's willing to work on the weaknesses, then yeah, you can help with that, too, to direct them there. I'm all about the strengths when we're talking about team building, because in my experience, that's kind of the type of, hey, let's get the team was everybody's strengths. And then, you know, they fill all those gaps, talking about strengths. How did you acquire the skill of being self disciplined, and having that calmness and that patience, I guess I'll start with the parenting. It's such a magnitude of responsibility when you're in charge of guiding someone else. And so first, it's like just giving them I'm going to cry, because it's just such an important thing. You know, to have the opportunity to care and nurturing share the needs of somebody else. And so, I think I take that seriously. And I'm grateful for it. But I'm a human being right. And so little, little ones and little babies and little children. They're going to test every single thing that you have, because they're just learning. They're just learning. And so early on, I did a couple things. I changed the way that I spoke about my children and how I spoke to my children, because that helps me that language helps me helps me gain patience and impatient times. So I'll give you an example. Like my young little baby beautiful girls. Okay, my gorgeous girl there love so much. Just gonna tie your shoe right now. Where's your shoe? Okay, good girl. It's not in it sounds silly when you look at me doing it. But I'm really just talking to myself to remind me that that child is just a good little kid. You know that these are just new experiences as a parent each day. Um, having that is new, you know, Pat and I were like, We had married, we're like, we are so good. You're, we're, we got this parenting down, then Jane comes along. And we're like, okay, okay. Yeah, we're awesome. Then Joseph comes along, and we're like, we have no idea what's going on, like, what just happened here, you know, you thought you had it all in the bag. He is not at all like the other two, Jane wasn't like Mary, they're all just different. And then all of us together are different. And then where we are, is different, that were literally different. We just moved. And so when you again, I think going back to those relationships, how do you value those relationships, I value my relationship with my husband, I value my relationship with myself. And I value my relation with my children. So how do I value those things for real, and that means that I had to learn to have patience, but but that doesn't mean just to say, Hi patients, I do really direct things in my language that I use. And then in my, my own practices of like, just a simple thing would be the self discipline thing. I've honestly learned a lot of that from my from watching the example my husband, he's very schedule oriented, and he has good habits of that self discipline. So it helps me you know, I can kind of lean on him for that, you know, when he's around. And I do actually, it's kind of great. But being able to set a good schedule and commit to it. And not, you know, yeah, it might be in one day, you know, having this set schedule of time that I give to myself. So for instance, evaluating all the craziness is happening in all of our schedules and going, I'm going to commit to this morning time, you know, to focus on this quiet moment time, I'm going to the end of the day, I'm going to have this moment. And I said timers. It's kind of geeky. But I said timers, so that I know, oh, that's my 845 timer to just stop and do 10 minutes of nothing. And just be here quiet and be grateful or whatever it is that I'm reflecting on. Because stress is real. And our kids see it. And they feel it. And at the end of the day, they're children. So they're gonna they're gonna think it's dumb every time. And so I think early early on, yeah, having patience, just was part of my extra practice. And then I they call it mommy monster. I sing to my children. When I'm absolutely angry or mad, or I just lost it. I seem to them or like I'm doing just like the menial housework things that I hate, like cleaning the toilets, and all seeing like, I love my children so much when they're cleaning. In this bathroom. No one cares about the bank, and I just seem crazy person seeming like that. So that I cannot have that, like attitude of going on gratefulness, you know, these people don't care about me. Because they put toothpaste all over the place. And they're just children. And I need to show them that you knew that the toothpaste stays in the tooth? I don't know, are you brushing 100 t like what's going on with the toothpaste? You know, so when we're in the care, and then even also to I think the other way around in the care of our elderly? I think that it's very important for us to have that same attitude, not a patronizing attitude, when we're talking about relationships with our different family members, especially those that are getting older, being able to be there and present with them, hearing them and listening to them. I think it's important, but I don't know, I don't know, all I can say is I have a very deep faith in in God, and in my faith in that kind of drives my moral compass and my behavior because I'm kind of very rooted in that faith. And so it kind of, you know, when everything goes to crap, it's just, it's where I go to right away. And fortunately for me, and my relationship with Pat, it's the same. So it's something that we practice, and it's also something that we carry on to our children, and they practice. So that whole mindset of faith and attitude, it's driven from both of us. And so it's consistent. I always have these feelings when we have our guests, but this guest is my twin and I'm still always in awe every time you speak, the perspective and the thoughtfulness is just, I mean, I think anybody that's gonna listen to it is taking notes as far as like, especially if they're new parent, because we're now in this with our toddler and we're not new parents, we have Sasha but just the way that you're putting it out there to remind yourself that they are still just children learning. It's such an important reminder, especially when you're the adult dealing with all these responsibilities. Yeah, parenting is stressful, you know. But I found that all we can do because at the end of the day we've been children to is be good examples as parents. And if we're, you know, if we're yelling at our child because they have to go to the bathroom, even though you asked them to go to the bathroom, and now you have to go to the bathroom again, and you start yelling at them. I mean, would you yell at your friend for that? You know, would you? I mean, just that kind of frustration, you know? And so all we can do is be at the end of the day, they're just going to remember our example, I think. And that's not me, that's Pat. Because I get I'm the one that's like, you know, I'm the one that's like, I just this guy's and he's just like, we can't we we're not going to be able to make those decisions for them. At the end of the day, they have to make them themselves. Candy's gonna have to thank you, for me singing all day for the next few weeks. Yeah, thanks. It makes you laugh, be. And that's exactly why I do it. Because then you start thinking, Okay, this is stupid, right? When you start singing it out loud like that. And it's helped me I having three under five was hard. Guys, having three under five is hard. And when you're doing it by yourself, because you know, your partner who is you know, I'm like, if he wasn't such an amazing partner and husband, you know, the void wouldn't you know, I wouldn't bother with it. But when you're doing it by yourself, sometimes it's a difficult thing. So laughter for me in the seeming, it's silly, but then when I'm doing it, it brings me back to reality that it's just to pace. It's just you know what it is, it's just what it is. And not letting it escalate to those kind of feelings that you shouldn't have, like resentment, bitterness, anger, you know, you don't want to be, you know, it's okay to have those feelings. It's okay to be angry. But you don't want to be an angry person. When you're when you're parenting. It's okay to be disappointed if you want to be a disappointing person when you're caring, because they're going to get in that example is what they'll remember. Why would it arts community based organization get involved with the Olympics? Yeah. And I think that when you see just the journey that we went through, of why somehow number one, the Olympics has decided, and announced that breaking was a sport in December 2019. And then you look at that the sport is entrusted to the world, dancesport Federation, and then in the United States, and trusted with the ants organization. And when you look at those organizations, dancesport is a ballroom dance organization. And so when you think of anyone who knows about breaking or break dance in the United States, they know a couple things they know that break dance comes from from the United States, but I don't think that they would say that breakdance is connected to ballroom dance. And so there's a lot of questions in there, that you would want to ask of, in my perspective, breaking comes from hip hop culture is one of its pillars. And in my experience as a hip hop organization, viewing the Olympic topic, it's important that that positive aspect of braking is reflected even as innovates and grows into a legitimate sport. Now, how did we get into it specifically, just doing what we've always been doing, developing and nurturing and caring for breakers. And that led us to have conversations with Team USA to ask more questions about not only how we would support our breakers with teaching and coaching, development, but then also understanding the process and asking questions about the process, which led us to be able to apply as an organization independently, to say that we could lead the sport in the US. You know, as you look at all the different avenues we can go into all the different discussions about is breaking a sport, you know, is it an art form? is it part of hip hop culture, you know, we can have all those, but when we, when we decide, it says to put our names in the hat, the main thing that I knew, and what was calling me to do this was the perception that braking wasn't positive, because what we were seeing is the perspective of others, that were presenting it in a non positive way. That's a word right negative way. And so it wasn't meeting our mission as a whole because regardless of who takes it up, it represents in our culture, it represents the black culture that it comes from, and it represents us and so if we're Looking across the street? And that's representing me? No, thank you. Let's see if we could do better. And that's kind of where we'd said, Now, what a journey, it's been to figure out what the processes are just that alone, you know, ask questions and figure it out. And then going, wait a minute, are we eligible? Do we meet the minimum requirements? Guess what we do, because we were prepared. And because of that preparedness, we're able to at least try. And now we're trying. And so the cool part about it is, when you're trying to do something that no one's done before, you need to very quickly know who is on your team. And the cool thing about us is, and this is the theme of the conversation is, we got a solid team, because you and I, you know, we're leading this thing. And so when you think about that, and then you think about the relationships, the partnerships that we've made, and you evaluate those things, you quickly evaluate, I think, in my opinion, the things that reflect who we are. And so I'm really proud of that I'm proud of the history we made on April 16, when shall this culture applied as independent hip hop organization, to lead the sport of breaking, and now we're in that process where we're waiting to see, if Team USA, you know, evaluates all the other organizations that are a part of this, what I know is that we've had a lot of fun, just like we had the last nine years sharing and nurturing hip hop culture, fostering it, in the communities that we have cultivating people, cultivating our practitioners cultivating and connecting and translating hip hop to others. And, and we're still having fun. And that's one of our principles, right? And it's a peaceful thing. It's a unified thing. It's a loving thing. And we're having a whole hell a lot of fun. So I think that's my little topic there. So we'll see, To be continued. But regardless, we're going to be in the game. If it's a sport, we're going to still be in the game to support the development of it. Because, again, there's a value in its representation. There's integrity, we can make informed decisions, we can ask questions, and I'm just really, really like, honestly, like humbled by the amazing people that our team has the reflect everything good that hip hop has to offer. So it's gonna be fun. What's your favorite quote, or life model? My kids say that I always say it's because you dance. So the kids are like, Why? You know, you know why you didn't fall because you dance? You know why you didn't do this? It's because your dance you know why you were thinking this way is because you and so they I didn't even notice I was doing that until probably a couple years ago, when they were like moms always tell it we know mom, it's because I danced, that I'm this way to bring it full circle. I would like to share the poem with you that sparked the idea for child of this culture. I'm a child of this culture. I see stars beneath the waters while rabbits run behind blue bushes. I spy no consequences for coloring on the lines. My crayons don't melt like m&ms in my mouth. My pieces resemble eggs caressed at the bottom of the nest. I don't rest my legs transport me in and out of castles. While I'm dazzled by neon hazard symbols until jingles come with deliverance of icicle pops. I'm running to my pops Mr. Hip Hop on my block. My news feeds me yet I still puke other methods skillfully. I noticed how the birds lead the herds combining the sky and the earth is this mixture worth the exploration individuals adding inspiration yet still disease by procrastination? Afraid of this brainwashed nation. I was introduced through a cup of caffeine. Then given ginseng to supply the energies. I walked into the six step program. I don't sacrifice lambs. I just pray. reason Jesus was laid on the cross frost been by oh man winter, I decided to train. I didn't want the easy props of being a female in hip hop. I was named and my terrible twos, feeling the real hues behind Venus and Mars. While I simultaneously swim across the lake to land prospectively on a mission amongst frozen fingers on hardwood floors. I still listen to the doors I don't fake the funk. My chores require the help of salya crews and the roots. Then I once again enter the gut I had to bruise my ego. Because I'm a child of this culture. I see stars beneath the waters while rabbits run behind blue bush. Thank you so much to our guests Cindy Foley for taking the time and being so open while sharing your perspective with us. some advice for nonprofits we took away from this interview


When you start a nonprofit, make sure you manage your expenses the same way you would a regular for profit business to maintain financial stability. The important asset of your company is your team and the people you work with. Prioritize diversity, equity and inclusion. Before you charge into your mission, take the time to listen to the people you intend to serve. Evaluate what the right need is and embrace change. Our theme music was beatboxed by Denis the Menace and produced by Zede. A big shout out to the brothers from Switzerland. The background music was produced by Taki Brano. A big thank you to our brosky from Providence. Much love to DJ Lean Rock who just dropped a new mix called Now Serving. Click on the link in our show notes to listen to it. A huge thank you to Pat for your continued support. Our podcast basically runs on coffee. To keep our show running you can support by buying us coffee through the link in our show notes. We would love to get your feedback questions and any suggestions you might have. You can reach out to us on Instagram, Twitter or Facebook@soulidarityLLC or via email If you like today's show, please tell a friend about our podcast.

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tell your mother, tell your father, send a telegram. In our next episode, we talked to Alien Ness. He's a former member of the New York City breakers, Rock Steady crew an was the president of the might Zulu kings. He published a boo"The Art of battle" and has tau ht countless dancers around

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